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		<title>By: monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a created my own website on raw feeding, please take a look:  www.dogscamefromwolves.com

It explains how to feed, what to feed, the benefits, and other supplements and veggies/fruits you can add. 

Monty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a created my own website on raw feeding, please take a look:  <a href="http://www.dogscamefromwolves.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dogscamefromwolves.com</a></p>
<p>It explains how to feed, what to feed, the benefits, and other supplements and veggies/fruits you can add. </p>
<p>Monty</p>
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		<title>By: The Friday Five: In Defense of Kibble</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Friday Five: In Defense of Kibble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of this primal diet &#8212; including Jim McBean who guest posted about it on my blog and writes regularly on the topic at DoggyBytes.ca &#8212; contend that the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Only Two Dog Treats I Give to My Dogs - Dogs &#124; DoggyBytes.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Only Two Dog Treats I Give to My Dogs - Dogs &#124; DoggyBytes.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of cleaner teeth, you may also be interested in reading a number of well debated posts over at WillMyDogHateMe.com, discussing methods to help clean, and keep clean a dog&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Edie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow -- thanks for this, Susanne. This is a much better response to &quot;dogs are carnivores&quot; than &quot;go watch a movie!&quot; I suspected you had geek tendencies, but this provides definitive proof. Geeks rule!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; thanks for this, Susanne. This is a much better response to &#8220;dogs are carnivores&#8221; than &#8220;go watch a movie!&#8221; I suspected you had geek tendencies, but this provides definitive proof. Geeks rule!</p>
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		<title>By: Susanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A word of caution - dogs have evolved as omnivores and to state they are meant to be solely carnivorous is incorrect. &quot;Dogs are opportunistic eaters and have developed anatomic and physiologic characteristics that permit digestion and usage of a varied diet.&quot; Source: Hand, M. and Novotny, B. (2002) Small Animal Clinical Nutrition 4th Edition. Dogs require a diet that in addition to protein and fat includes a carbohydrate source, some fibre, and nutrients that they will not get eating meat alone. Wolves achieve this through eating the stomach contents of the herbivores they kill, and it has been documented that this is one of the first parts of the kill they will devour. In times when prey is scarce wolves also eat seeds and berries to supplement their diet. 

It is possible to feed a domestic dog a vegetarian diet as long as it contains the appropriate levels of protein, carbohydrates and other nutrients to meet the dog&#039;s daily metabolic energy requirements. A domestic cat, on the other hand, is an obligate carnivore, and can survive on meat alone. Cats do also have specific nutritional requirements, most notably their need for taurine, and will become ill very quickly if deficient, so if feeding raw meat alone to a pet cat you may want to add a vitamin supplement containing taurine to be safe. 

There is nothing wrong with feeding your pet dog on a diet of raw foods you put together yourself at home as long as it meets all the dog&#039;s nutritional needs i.e. contains enough protein, fat, carbohydrates, fiber etc. A vet could give you suggestions on how to achieve this, or an animal nutritionist could also provide feeding plans. The area where care needs to be used if doing this is when substituting ingredients from the recommended diet plan, say due to a listed ingredient being unavailable, or deciding to use other ingredients because they are cheaper etc. This can result in nutritional deficiencies, which over time can cause health problems.

Sorry to get academic on you, but I had to clarify the dog - carnivore issue as it is a common misconception and can result in a sick pup in the long term. There are many excellent texts available, including the one I mentioned already, or the likes of &quot;Animal Nutrition&quot; by Mc Donald, Edwards, Greenhalgh and Morgan - a more technical text that goes into calculating daily metabolic energy requirements to develop appropriate diets for a variety of domestic animals (lots of boring calculations and such, but if you are into that sort of thing it&#039;s a great book). 

I have a feeling what I have said is going to rile some people up so I&#039;ll throw some qualifications out there to back up what I said (at the risk of being all academic yet again) 
Susanne Fritz
B.Science (Biology) B.Arts (Science Communication) Grad Cert Food Science
There you have it - the science geek has been outed! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A word of caution &#8211; dogs have evolved as omnivores and to state they are meant to be solely carnivorous is incorrect. &#8220;Dogs are opportunistic eaters and have developed anatomic and physiologic characteristics that permit digestion and usage of a varied diet.&#8221; Source: Hand, M. and Novotny, B. (2002) Small Animal Clinical Nutrition 4th Edition. Dogs require a diet that in addition to protein and fat includes a carbohydrate source, some fibre, and nutrients that they will not get eating meat alone. Wolves achieve this through eating the stomach contents of the herbivores they kill, and it has been documented that this is one of the first parts of the kill they will devour. In times when prey is scarce wolves also eat seeds and berries to supplement their diet. </p>
<p>It is possible to feed a domestic dog a vegetarian diet as long as it contains the appropriate levels of protein, carbohydrates and other nutrients to meet the dog&#8217;s daily metabolic energy requirements. A domestic cat, on the other hand, is an obligate carnivore, and can survive on meat alone. Cats do also have specific nutritional requirements, most notably their need for taurine, and will become ill very quickly if deficient, so if feeding raw meat alone to a pet cat you may want to add a vitamin supplement containing taurine to be safe. </p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with feeding your pet dog on a diet of raw foods you put together yourself at home as long as it meets all the dog&#8217;s nutritional needs i.e. contains enough protein, fat, carbohydrates, fiber etc. A vet could give you suggestions on how to achieve this, or an animal nutritionist could also provide feeding plans. The area where care needs to be used if doing this is when substituting ingredients from the recommended diet plan, say due to a listed ingredient being unavailable, or deciding to use other ingredients because they are cheaper etc. This can result in nutritional deficiencies, which over time can cause health problems.</p>
<p>Sorry to get academic on you, but I had to clarify the dog &#8211; carnivore issue as it is a common misconception and can result in a sick pup in the long term. There are many excellent texts available, including the one I mentioned already, or the likes of &#8220;Animal Nutrition&#8221; by Mc Donald, Edwards, Greenhalgh and Morgan &#8211; a more technical text that goes into calculating daily metabolic energy requirements to develop appropriate diets for a variety of domestic animals (lots of boring calculations and such, but if you are into that sort of thing it&#8217;s a great book). </p>
<p>I have a feeling what I have said is going to rile some people up so I&#8217;ll throw some qualifications out there to back up what I said (at the risk of being all academic yet again)<br />
Susanne Fritz<br />
B.Science (Biology) B.Arts (Science Communication) Grad Cert Food Science<br />
There you have it &#8211; the science geek has been outed! <img src='http://willmydoghateme.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Will My Dog Hate Me? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Frankie won&#8217;t be BARFing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will My Dog Hate Me? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Frankie won&#8217;t be BARFing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim (DoggyBytes.ca)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim (DoggyBytes.ca)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s not a ton of research being done on raw diets for dogs and cats. For obvious reasons the pet food industry (who fund most of the &quot;studies&quot;) isn&#039;t particularly interested in pouring a lot of money into that kind of research, except when it benefits from the spread misinformation. 

I understand there are reasons that people don&#039;t want to feed their pets a raw diet; they believe it to be too expensive (it&#039;s not), they don&#039;t like handling meat or whatever, that&#039;s fine. What I don&#039;t understand is the unwillingness of some to even explore the topic - and the degree to which they oppose the notion of raw feeding . 

Needing large &quot;controlled studies&quot; to learn what we already know, that carnivores (which include dogs, wolves and cat) eat flesh and bone and have been equipped by nature to do so, seems sort of odd to me. How on earth have dogs been able to survive for hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of years without commercial kibble?

&lt;strong&gt;A Word About Salmonella&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;At all events, the evidence in which the antibody response takes place suggests that the host-parasite relationship is not saprophytic but of latent infection. If there is no primary factor which produces harmfull effects on barriers within the body, dogs may not fall ill.&quot; Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110004779773/en&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Studies on Salmonella in Dogs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Definition:&lt;/strong&gt; Latent Infection - &quot;The state in which a host is infected with a pathogen but &lt;strong&gt;does not&lt;/strong&gt;show any symptoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s not a ton of research being done on raw diets for dogs and cats. For obvious reasons the pet food industry (who fund most of the &#8220;studies&#8221;) isn&#8217;t particularly interested in pouring a lot of money into that kind of research, except when it benefits from the spread misinformation. </p>
<p>I understand there are reasons that people don&#8217;t want to feed their pets a raw diet; they believe it to be too expensive (it&#8217;s not), they don&#8217;t like handling meat or whatever, that&#8217;s fine. What I don&#8217;t understand is the unwillingness of some to even explore the topic &#8211; and the degree to which they oppose the notion of raw feeding . </p>
<p>Needing large &#8220;controlled studies&#8221; to learn what we already know, that carnivores (which include dogs, wolves and cat) eat flesh and bone and have been equipped by nature to do so, seems sort of odd to me. How on earth have dogs been able to survive for hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of years without commercial kibble?</p>
<p><strong>A Word About Salmonella</strong></p>
<p><i>&#8220;At all events, the evidence in which the antibody response takes place suggests that the host-parasite relationship is not saprophytic but of latent infection. If there is no primary factor which produces harmfull effects on barriers within the body, dogs may not fall ill.&#8221; Source: <a href="http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110004779773/en" rel="nofollow">Studies on Salmonella in Dogs</a></i></p>
<p><strong>Definition:</strong> Latent Infection &#8211; &#8220;The state in which a host is infected with a pathogen but <strong>does not</strong>show any symptoms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karyn - for some reason it seems that some people in the US can&#039;t bring up my site. From talking to someone near Philly, whatever the problem, it is related to the IP&#039;s down there.

At any rate, here are the direct links to Youtube of the videos I have posted on my site;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRaKmbcKjto (wonderful crunching sound effects too. =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLtzLm2RC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYiWmPGmTQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karyn &#8211; for some reason it seems that some people in the US can&#8217;t bring up my site. From talking to someone near Philly, whatever the problem, it is related to the IP&#8217;s down there.</p>
<p>At any rate, here are the direct links to Youtube of the videos I have posted on my site;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRaKmbcKjto" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRaKmbcKjto</a> (wonderful crunching sound effects too. =)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLtzLm2RC0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLtzLm2RC0</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYiWmPGmTQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTYiWmPGmTQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edie, that is the correct link. The main video is of Dr. Billinghurst talking about how to serve his product and under that video are three additional videos of two of dogs eating raw and one of a cat eating a chicken wing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edie, that is the correct link. The main video is of Dr. Billinghurst talking about how to serve his product and under that video are three additional videos of two of dogs eating raw and one of a cat eating a chicken wing.</p>
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		<title>By: Edie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karyn, the link to Jim&#039;s site that promises the dogs &amp; cats eating raw works for me -- http://doggybytes.ca/raw-knowledge-starting-point/2088/ --  but I didn&#039;t find that specific video. Jim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karyn, the link to Jim&#8217;s site that promises the dogs &amp; cats eating raw works for me &#8212; <a href="http://doggybytes.ca/raw-knowledge-starting-point/2088/" rel="nofollow">http://doggybytes.ca/raw-knowledge-starting-point/2088/</a> &#8212;  but I didn&#8217;t find that specific video. Jim?</p>
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